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[00:00:00] OpenAI is laying the groundwork for superintelligence with its new economic blueprint. From national defense, to international fundraising, to OpenAI's plan to actually power this next generation of intelligence. That's right, we're talking more power for more super AIs to use more power. It's the circle of AI!

Plus, there's a new AI video model from Luma Labs, Reddit, and Twitter. And let's not forget that a woman thought that French Brad Pitt was texting her from his hospital bed. Bonjour! Oui, oui. C'est A. I. for humans! Oh, no! Oh, no!

All right, Kevin, big news this week. Open AI dropped what they called their economic [00:01:00] blueprint. And yes, Kevin, it is another open AI blog post. We are so excited every time open AI and Sam Altman whips out the fingers, taps away at the blog post. Uh, and when we got in this something pretty interesting, let me just whip these old fingers out.

I like to believe you've got a pair, uh, like a pair of fingerless gloves on your hip that are like holsters for your fingers. And you just rest them in there, and when it's time to type, Not me, that's what Sam Altman does. You have to imagine Sam Altman doing that. Oh, exactly. It's way hotter that way.

Yeah, this, this document is basically what is laying out the groundwork for super intelligent AI. Now, let's explain that real quick and kind of why, yes, in America, very regional document. This is their blueprint for American artificial intelligence domination. That's right. So, so, and the reason why we're getting this document and is we've talked about in the show for the last couple of weeks is there's a lot of heat right now, [00:02:00] whether or not it's true or not.

Around this idea that that AI progress is speeding up. And I think Oh three, the Oh three model that they have shown, but not released yet at open AI really kind of like ticked off some boxes for people in the world to think, Oh, this could go very fast, right? Cause we went from Oh one. to 03, which was a pretty big improvement within like what, six months, maybe let's say.

And there's a real possibility that we get an 04 or even an 05 with this within this year. So Kev, in this document, we should talk through kind of what it is and why they put it out. Um, first, why they put it out. I think it's pretty obvious. Like they're setting themselves up to try to be like the great grand steward of AI for Earth, right?

Which is definitely a place that Sam Altman has been wanting to put himself. Listen, we are but pattern recognizing machines, us pesky little flesh bags. And I immediately said to you something like, I, that my spidey sense was tingling. I'm like, I felt this moment before. And it was when Dean Kamen and a handful of [00:03:00] others, like, Almost two decades ago, we're saying, listen, city planners, get ready.

You're going to have to figure out how to like dig up your roads and get rid of all the infrastructure as you know it, because a little thing is going to be unveiled very soon, and it turned out that was the segue, but that's how they were hyping it. That product provides incredible experiences for people in tourist destinations around the world.

It did change the world. It did make people roll around the, uh, the Arc de Triomphe very well. And that is something that has made a difference. So, okay, let's So as a tourist, take them off of curbs, accidentally going full throttle, thinking it would self balance. So it's a little grandiose of a document, but they are likening this upcoming wave of super intelligence.

Uh, they're saying that the, the, the nation needs to prepare and rally around it the same way we rallied around the automobile, the way that we, we built infrastructure to allow for cars on a federal, on a national level to make it around, like we [00:04:00] need to get ready, get regulation out of the way and clear a path.

For open AI that exactly. So that that is the greatest all to take. So I want to walk through the five main kind of bullet points they talk about in this document. First is a strategic investment in AI infrastructure. This means like we need to substantially spend money on data centers, chip manufacturing facilities, power plants, all that stuff.

Number two is establishing common sense regulations. Open AI is trying to say that we need to have a way to safeguard the public while still fostering innovation. You know, stop me if you've heard these things before. Three is enhancing national security, which is a big thing that lots of people in the government have been thinking about.

And as we've talked about in the show, OpenAI is digging more and more of its heels into governmental work. And I'm sure the government itself is digging more and more of themselves into. In fact, there was a new board member this week that was announced that is part of BlackRock. And if there's anybody out there on conspiratorial TikTok or whatever TikTok is going to become, knows that BlackRock has their hands in kind of everything, [00:05:00] including a bunch of governmental stuff.

Then the fourth part of this is promoting equitable access to AI. They really want there to be the ability that if there is a super intelligence, that everybody can have equal access to it. And finally, Kevin, this might be the most important part for open AI attracting global AI investments. So. The open AI in the document talks specifically about the fact that there is 175 billion for global and global funds for AI projects, and they want the U S the U S to attract those funds and not let it go to other countries.

So really what this is, is like a, a bull post. This is like a bull post about the state of where AI could go. I think ultimately to me. This document does read like a company that is trying to kind of put its flag in the ground to be the leader in the space. And obviously right now they are. And I'm just kind of curious to know Like, say we get to a superintelligence within a couple years, do you think this gives [00:06:00] them like a huge advantage if they were able to kind of bring all these pieces together versus say a company like, I don't know, Google or Meta?

Well, I mean, we covered this space literally each and every week. And I would say that this country would have some disadvantages stacked up against it. Namely, like we have a. Depending upon who you ask, a power grid that isn't really up to snuff for the needs as we need them today. Uh, so what happens when suddenly there's an exponential growth in the need for that?

Um, chip manufacturing. I know we're bringing more online in this country. Yeah, that's great, except Can we get it? Can we get it here? Because we're probably going to need some new chips for superintelligence, right? So when you look at those pillars that you stacked up, national security, all of those things, yeah, I think we are going to have to make some real big decisions on a national level if we're going to be playing on, if we want to retain the lead, that supposed lead that we have.

As a country right now. Yeah. And I think [00:07:00] an interesting thing, this is kind of a tangential thing, but you know, many people in the world are aware that tick tock might go away in America on Sunday. And the reason why tick tock might go away in America on Sunday is not just because they don't want your kids to be watching skibbity toilet type content.

In part, it's that it actually is part of that, but the bigger part of that is that it's owned by a Chinese company. Right. And this is kind of the beginning of a cold war around algorithms and technology. And you mentioned the chip thing. You know, most of the world's chips come from Taiwan, and Taiwan is very close and very controversially, uh, uh, connected to China.

That is a big problem, and I think that's a major thing that people are thinking about at the highest level and so much so Kev, that like, you know, Biden on his way out the door has dropped a couple kind of executive, uh, orders, one of which is a, uh, opening the door to gigawatt, gig to gigawatt power factories making power factories.

able to get made so that we can power this stuff, and then two, there's a new chip law, [00:08:00] which is an interesting thing, and it kind of restricts different places to sell chips to, like, certain countries. In fact, there's three different designations for certain countries, and both China and Russia are at the bottom of that, of that, um, kind of scale.

Tier three scrubs. Tier three. Get good. Get good. You can't have our most delicious crispy chips. That's right. So I, I think this is all kind of coming together right now in a way, and we have warned everybody that this was going to become a national security discussion relatively soon. And guess what? We are now here.

This is like kind of open AI kind of starting the, the, the going forward with all this. Kev, I think there, there was an interesting clip from Sam Altman too, that might speak to some of this. He was speaking on Adam Grant's podcast this week. Play just this little clip so we can hear what he had to say.

What's something you've rethought recently on AI or changed your mind about? I think a fast takeoff is more possible than I thought a couple of years ago. How fast? Feels hard to reason about, but something that's in like a small number of years rather than a decade. Wow. What do you think [00:09:00] is the worst advice people are given on adapting to AI?

AI is hitting a wall, which I think is the laziest f ing way to try to not think about it and You know, put it out of sight, out of mind. Man, Sam's dropping the F bomb. This is clearly some, some, uh, some actual, like, uh, stress going on there. But, so Kev, this, what I wanted to play this clip for is Just send him money.

You're all so lazy. He needs the money. He's, stop being so lazy about this stuff. Give him cash. The fast takeoff thing, if you're new to our show, just a quick explainer, there's a slow, there's an idea between a slow takeoff or a fast takeoff and a slow takeoff is the idea that we kind of get gradual progress to something and maybe we get, you know, super AI in 10 to 20 years, a fast takeoff means like a more of a hockey stick up growth to super intelligence.

And, you know, for a long time, people were very worried about the idea of a fast takeoff because it would mean that we were suddenly going to not understand what's going on. What I think Sam is like referring to here. And again, he's talking his own bag. We have to make sure that we are all on the [00:10:00] same page on that.

But he's referring to what they've seen in these 01 reasoning models and how quickly they're scaling that he thinks we could get to a fast takeoff within a couple of years. And when he's saying that he means Truly super intelligence, right? Because there's an argument that we're going to get to what most people would consider AGI even sooner than that.

And Kev, that is a weird world to be in. That is a, that is going to be a strange world to think about. It feels so hard to wrestle with the notion that Sam Altman is saying now he believes that a fast takeoff is more likely. Along the backdrop of like, hey, we literally don't have our power grid together to make this stuff happen.

Hey, the chips are still being made and there's not enough of them globally to go around to power all of this stuff. How is this fast takeoff supposed to happen unless a bunch of other dominoes are lined up properly? And maybe that's me just looking at it from the U. S. standpoint here because Other countries are sorting this out and, uh, you know, doing whatever they have to do to get their [00:11:00] resources in line.

So I just, it's hard for me to reconcile that, right. Hearing both of those things together, hearing like the Biden administration saying, Hey, you all have to play nice and figure out. How to make energy usage happen because this thing's gonna take off tomorrow. How? It needs the power to do that. Am I And government is broken, right?

Like, I think that there's one thing that most people can agree on is that government is not functioning as well as conceivably could. So, like, that's the other side of this. Like, there's a real argument for For like the tech could get there and human progress just may not. And it may not have the power to approach it.

I just think it's, it's an important takeaway for everybody to understand speed. Right. And like, we may still be like a very long way away from this affecting the average person in some form or another. Right. Like I don't want to be. This like we may be like 5, 10, 20 years away from like a change in our world, but there's a real possibility that that change will come.

And I think that that's the important kind of take away from this is that [00:12:00] like, as Kevin mentioned, opening, I did compare this to the advent of the automobile. Which transformed the way we moved around the world. But this could be something even larger because the automobile was just a tool for us to use and isn't necessarily a new version of us.

And like, that's the bigger difference I think to think about here. And Kev, I just think from a speed standpoint, there were just very quick things I wanted to point out that, that really have shown lately how fast the world is moving first and foremost. I think. Um, there's an open source model that just got dropped that was made for 450 that conceivably is as good as O1.

You were the one who pointed this out to me, which is just a crazy thing. Sky T1. The UC Berkeley released, as you said, it was a 450. That was the cost to train this model using pre existing models. And this is the, you know, this is the, the scaling on inference or, or, or thought time compute. Uh, basically putting more power [00:13:00] into the model when you're trying to get something out of it so that it can think and reason and plan.

Well, clearly OpenAI saw that that was working. Uh, others have followed suit. Now the open source community. has done one as well, and it is, the benchmarks are amazing on it, but when you just, When you realize that for a couple hundred dollars, you can train your own super powerful model. And now you get the training data, the code, the model weights.

If you've ever wanted to develop on anything or, uh, you know, roll your own. I mean, you have access to everything that the model needs. And, you know, the next thing is, Minimax launched, uh, a thing called, uh, Lightning Attention, which is a new model that they have, which is visual multi modal and it does all sorts of things.

This is just a good example of, this is a Chinese company, but there is a new model and new infrastructures coming along. I've seen multiple blog posts this week about different ways to look at using the Transformer, so that's moving really fast. And finally, Kevin, I [00:14:00] think the one thing I want to point out for people in our audience and if you're not watching this on YouTube, please go watch it on YouTube or we'll show a clip in the show notes.

There's a guy who works at Runway who used, in like a very short amount of time, their tools to make an AI version of himself. And this is an example of like a creative takeaway of how fast this stuff is moving. If Kevin and I saw this clip a year ago, We would have been absolutely blown away. Play this real quick for the video.

Would you? So I generated this character entirely from text recorded this performance on my phone and was able to animate lip sync and upscale my character's performance all within runway in under 10 minutes. Um, what? I'm just really excited y'all. Hopefully. Uh, huge shout out to Timmy, who is a, uh, runway community manager.

He's been very generous to the, to both of us here at AI for Humans. Uh, and yeah, I mean, what you're seeing, if you're, uh, just listening to the audio on this, this is, this is Timmy as like a fully [00:15:00] rendered Pixar quality level character chatting about hands moving, uh, you know, the eyes and face animating along with everything that he's saying.

There is a fluffy little, uh, llama, alpaca. Probably, I think it's an, I think it's a llama. Oh, it could be either. Who knows? But he's got, he's got a fluffy little companion looking about. And it just, again, this is, as Gavin was saying, this is something that a year ago we've go, okay, well, what, what wizardry is this?

What? And it's actually, it's just 10 minutes of effort using runway tools. It's speed. It's speed to getting stuff done, and it's speed to improvement. I think this is the thing I just want to make sure we reiterate to the people out there. This stuff is moving faster. I know that people out there are saying that they're hitting a wall.

There's many places that it is not hitting a wall, and it's very likely that it's not hitting a wall at all. Did you say the F word? I did. I was, I was quoting Sam Altman. Fair enough. They're just being f ing crazy. Speaking of [00:16:00] swearing, Kevin, you know what I would swear about is God It's time to subscribe to AI for Humans.

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I got to be honest, so, uh, and, and don't cut this out. My brain is, uh, At about seven and a half percent, which is far better than the 1 percent that it was last week, but I'm still battling the flu and, and, and trying to get over it. Uh, when I know that there are far bigger issues in the world that people are [00:17:00] navigating, but I say this, uh, mostly to excuse my presence in this podcast this week, but also to set up that maybe that's why I am just so ornery.

About this chat GPT tasks thing that I have seen every single person that has like AI and their LinkedIn bio. Trying to say like, Oh my God, agentic AI is here. And this is the future has arrived in chat. GPT ship miss extends into 2025. We're going to get into it, but I am just, this is so not it. And I'm so angry about it for some reason.

And I don't know if it's because I just still don't feel well, Gavin, or if I am justified. To feel so angry at everybody. I don't think this is like an amazing feature. I don't think you're wrong. And then we should talk about what the, so chat GPT ship something new today. So shipments did not end in December.

It's here again. They shipped a product called GPT tasks. And what this essentially is, is the ability to, I guess, essentially set [00:18:00] reminders for your GPT or chat GPT to do. And, and, you know, People online, as you say, the AI influencers, the hype beasts are kind of talking about it as identic AI. In my mind, this isn't that.

It's really like just telling you to do stuff. This is like, it's like a windows power toy. Like remember the PowerShell toys from back in the day? Like you can schedule basically something for GPT to do for you. And I'm like, okay, show me the 12 examples that are going to destroy my world and make me want to fire my children and leave my wife.

And the examples are like, You could have a 7am, uh, notification from, from chat GPT that tells you to be mindful. Yes. Or yeah, it gives you a workout exercise. Yeah. It's like what it's. It's the same thing as, yeah, you can do that in anything, right? It's basically a calendar, it's a calendar invite for a certain thing, right?

I think the problem here is, people have been waiting for OpenAI's Operator, which is their version of [00:19:00] computer, of Anthropix computer use, which means that the computer can actually go out and do stuff for you, and this is not that. Right? This is not that. And maybe they didn't need to ship this with what it is, or maybe to them, even it wasn't that big of a deal.

And then people kind of ran with it. That said, I guess if you want like reminders in your chat GPT, it's not a terrible thing. It feels to me like kind of a minor blip on the chat GPT roadmap in terms of stuff, but also this is a good example of people trying to take kind of anything that open AI does and turn it into something big.

Um, but in this instance, I think it's fine, you know, play with it. You can go into your, in order to find it, you have to go into your settings. So you click on your name in the upper right corner. It's hard to find sometimes the little bubble that has your, your initials in it, you click on there and you can set your tasks in there and while you're at it, check out what chat GPT has remembered about you because there may be things in there that you don't want it to remember.

In fact, Kevin, I'm going to do this real fast because I, the other day I did this, I just want to see what's in there. And by the way, under model selection now, if you're using [00:20:00] the web app, you can drop down and you'll see GPT 4. 0 and then you'll say GPT 4. 0 with scheduled tasks beta. So, uh, you can access it there now.

That's, that's new as of, uh, this recording. Okay. So, uh, here's a couple of interesting things that chat GPT memory has remembered about me. First of all, it said, Gavin is playing the board game acquire with four players, two of whom are beginners. That's good. I got to this game acquire for Christmas. Great board game.

It says Harper is three years old. Not true. Harper. My daughter's actually 17 years old. Um, Gavin, it remembered that Gavin has noticed it's much harder for him to sleep now compared to when he was younger. So decided to remember that. Okay. And then it also remembered that, um, Gavin identifies with the gluten free cooking community due to having celiac disease, which causes him to avoid gluten.

Now this is interesting in that I am not that, but my entire rest of my family has celiac disease. So that is something that's remembered. I just think it's really interesting to go into your memory, which is again, in the settings tab. [00:21:00] Tab of GPT and see the things it has remembered. You can take them out if you want to, but I just found it funny to go in and look at some, a few things in there from time to time.

Well, I mean, diving into your own AI's memory is one thing, but what about the collective memory of all of the Reddit users out there, Gavin? So this is pretty cool. So we all know that. So Reddit, uh, uh, Um, made a deal with OpenAI and, you know, Reddit is a very large source of the data of these LLMs in general, because they scraped Reddit, so Reddit and OpenAI made a deal, and so what Reddit has done, and this is actually on the Reddit homepage, if you look at the upper left of the Reddit homepage, there's a new tab that says, answers.

They have created a custom GPT that will give you answers based on their giant data set of Reddit answers and you can ask it anything. Um, I just think this is cool because like it's an interesting use case of a GPT. We've often thought the custom GPTs are kind of an after product for open AI and maybe not that big a deal.

But [00:22:00] this is a major company taking that product and kind of bringing it in house to their own thing. I was thinking we should try to ask it something, Kevin. What should we ask it? Yeah, let's do it right now. Yeah, what do we want? Do we need it to rank like the best snacks while gaming? Oh, no, let's, let's, let's, that's a good start, but let's have it rank the best snacks while gaming while your, your mom is yelling from the upstairs and you're about to go on a crazy, um, uh, 20 person, uh, World of Warcraft, uh, Uh, uh, what is it called?

Real Death Raid. You want to do like a hardcore mode raid? Real Death Raid. Hardcore mode raid. The best snacks for gaming while mom is yelling from upstairs and you're about to a hardcore raid with your guild. Also, you're 14. Sure, that's fine. Also, you're 14. Alright, here we go. Could not quite figure out what you meant?

[00:23:00] Try rephrasing the question. Oh no, that's not a good start for the Reddit GPT. No, no, it didn't even really try. Well look, some of the recommended questions here are like nausea tips for pregnancy, Worst street style trends. Best coffee maker. Best five food brands for, to feed my llama. See what happens then.

It's thinking. Couldn't find specific food brands for feeding llamas. However, you might find useful information and it recommends r slash llama, r farming, r homestead. Oh, well that's nice. Now my question is, we should just, I'm gonna just ask ChatGPT what it gives me an answer for. What are the five best foods to feed my llama?

Okay, so, it gives me five foods right away. Now these are not brands, but it says the number one answer is hay, grass, or alfalfa. But like, I'm, this is a really interesting example of like, That should be a question that the Reddit [00:24:00] GPT should be able to answer, right? Conceivably. But maybe we're thinking too broadly.

Maybe it needs to be more about like video games of some sort. I'm gonna ask what it knows about Gavin Purcell. Okay, let's see what happens. Television, entertainment, and ask Reddit, but that's it. You're a ghost in the machine. Yeah, because you definitely exist on Reddit, Gav. Yeah, I mean, it feels broken in a weird way.

Well, anyway, so go try this. We, we were, we were excited about this. But why don't we give it, like, a nice, let me, why don't we give it an actual thing we might go to Reddit for? Like, like, what's an air fryer without PFAS or PFOAs in it? What is that? I don't know. You know, like forever toxic chemicals. Oh, yes.

That's the new, that's the big new conversation, right? Like the forever toxins. Yeah. Uh, is there an air fryer without toxic chemicals in it? Glass air fryers, the big boss aroma and transonic. [00:25:00] Okay. The beautiful line, uh, well, let's see. So what's interesting is that like, so you do the search. It gives you the answer as, you know, a clickable thread.

And rather than sources, it's, you know, it highlights It's text in blue, like a regular old hyperlink. And I can see here that it says these brands offer glass air fryers, which are free from nonstick coatings that may contain harmful chemicals. Then there's a quote. And when you click that, it pulls out on a third tab, r slash air fryer, nonstick PFAS free safe air fryers.

And I can see the post by, uh, knock wizzy. Or no, Finstraw made a post about it. Nockwizzy had the response, which this is pulling from right now. Uh, it says, I did see that Amazon, I did see some on Amazon that use glass. One was the Big Brass, another was uh, from Aroma, etc, etc. So clearly it's saying, oh, this is the comment that I sourced that from.

These all seem to be comments sourced from our cookware and from our airfryer. So well, I mean, [00:26:00] that's something that's a thing like, yeah, we, we maybe went too broad with our questions for it, but like, maybe there is a world where this is super useful. I mean, my worry about this is it gets frustrating for a lot of users if you don't get what you want out of it.

And like, why you wouldn't just use a Reddit search in some ways for this, but I guess it can direct you a little bit better. So it's something I think it's worth, it's at least worth exploring because it's a giant internet company that has a giant amount of data now partnering directly with OpenAI on their homepage, which feels like a big deal.

I just said, Mom won't stop interrupting my raid. I just want snackies from her. What to do? It won't help. You know that thread Reddit. There's a bajillion of those threads. There's a bajillion of those threads out there. Alright, we should move on. So, uh, big news, LumaLabs dropped Ray 2, which is their new AI video model.

It opened, uh, with a trailer today and it is available right now in Dream Machine. Kevin, we always love seeing the next generation of AI video. I've been playing a lot [00:27:00] with VO2, which we talked about on the show last week. This looks really good. There's a lot of really interesting uh, uh, descriptive videos that have come out of it.

Very realistic looking faces, some physics. And unlike some things, this is out to the public. It's a gift. There's some really fun videos. You sent me this one of a guy Weightlifting. Poultry. Yes, weightlifting poultry. There's a chicken, uh, just jacked, lifting weights above his head. Now, it's not like the weights are perfectly balanced, but like, it's definitely something amazing.

That's, now that's hormone free chicken, Gavin. How dare you? That's, that's full natty. Put it in the air fryer! We also love meat physics on this show. Yes. And there is, uh, some, some steak getting sliced up on a cutting board. And if you, uh, Forget the fact that as the steak is cut, it becomes hotter. For some reason it becomes steamier.

I don't know if you noticed that in the video, like as a slice. I did. Yeah, it's hilarious. It's heat activated, but like the actual physics and the look of the it's, it's full believable now. Like if it weren't [00:28:00] for that steak catching on fire. Uh, I would 100 percent go, Oh yeah, that's, that's just stock footage of someone slicing meats.

Again, as these things speed up, as we get faster and faster, we're going to see more and more realistic things. Kevin, we've said this a bajillion times, but you know, the idea of Prompt to Hollywood is coming quicker. And if you had shown us these, which is, this is coming from a company that is not OpenAI.

This is not Google. This is not Meta. This a year ago would have just made my head explode, right? That this is possible. And now I'm looking for every small little thing. I'm looking right now at a video. of a guy playing saxophone. And what's interesting is there's this, uh, you know, a guy playing saxophone, his clothes changed from shot to shot, but behind him, when they cut to the crowd, everybody in the crowd looks like they're rendered pretty well.

Now they're doing weird hand clapping, but like, you got to, you got to, you got to stop that crowd frame right there. Cause I know, I know at a glance, yeah, at a glance, one of the guys in the audience is like, [00:29:00] He's got a violin, like kind of just held for some reason. He's watching his arms kind of detach as they go up to slap the violin a little bit.

Um, yeah, it's pretty, it's, it's, it's still a little nightmare fuel if you, if you pause to go, but I get what you're saying. Some of these examples are. Pretty stunning and incredible. The surrealist banana. Anthropomorphized banana man doing taxes. Oh, so great. Yeah. Yeah, that one's, uh, fantastic. There's a bunch of Rick Rubins eating, uh, Carl's Jr.

Hamburgers, . Did you see that? The three bearded menu in a butterfly field? No. What that, is that on this thread? Is it in the thread? I think so. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Here I'll, oh my God. Well, that's, that's the, that's the, um, AR or Die guys. That's one of the guys from AI or Die. Oh, great. That's not them.

That's actually, he's one of the guys that makes ar ai for Die. Which we'll talk about later in the show. Yeah. So they said, can confirm it's working. So there is some beautiful stuff here. Cinematic camera lenses, like believable human motion. Uh, they. The big criticism of a lot of AI generated video was that for some reason, everything was in slow [00:30:00] motion.

And now it's a flex, I think, for a lot of these tools to show off just how fast the camera or characters can go zooming about their environment. And Ray 2 looks really impressive. Yeah, I'm excited about this. So, uh, it's available now. If you have to be a, probably be a Dream Machine, uh, Luma Lab subscriber, but this seems like another reason to spend money, Kevin.

I hate to say it, but I might have to jump in and spend some money on this, at least for one month. Um, we should move on. Let's talk about, uh, Sano, uh, NVIDIA launched something pretty cool. And you were excited about this. Tell us what this is. Yeah. Remember like, I don't know, like 30 minutes ago or so in this podcast, it was probably heavily edited where I was like, we don't have enough power for all this stuff and we don't have the chips for this.

I'm like, none of this is going to, why are we worrying about this? Unless we can get our ish together. And then it's like, oh, right. People. Released a total like best in class model that was 450 to train. And then you got NVIDIA releasing efficient high resolution image synthesis with linear diffusion transformer.

What does that [00:31:00] mean, Kevin? I, I, my brain no good. You, you explain, you explain. Yeah. All right. All right, Grok. I got you. Um, um, basically. Very, very beautiful, uh, image generation with a fraction of the power that would have been required to generate it in the past. So when you look at these examples on the screen, and if you're just getting the audio version, we'll put a link in the show notes, but this SANA text to image framework efficiently generates images that are massive, like 4k.

Uh, huge high res imagery and it can do it basically on a laptop. Like you don't need a full server farm. Yeah. You don't need to be in a tier one chip region to do this. It's, and it's fast. It takes like only a couple seconds to generate massive 4k artwork. I mean, this is the coolest thing is as the state of the art stuff, as the large models expand, as we mentioned with the open source stuff, there's So does the smaller stuff, right?

So like, I can't [00:32:00] wait for a world where the smaller models are really as powerful as the models that are like the state of the art models now, which is not going to be that far because doing stuff locally, you would just get a chance to experiment a little bit more. Like you'd be able to, and obviously.

One of the most frustrating things when creating content, meaning pictures or videos is, you know, the companies are very significantly guardrailed as to what they will and won't allow you to do VO two, which I've been having a blast with. Um, I actually had a really fun prompt where I created some, um, uh, pixelated games like point and click games from the eighties, which was fine.

I made a lawyer game, which I'll, I'll show here. But, uh, One of the frustrating things is sometimes you'll have like I wanted to do a prompt of a mascot wearing a big head standing up and knocking over a kid that was sitting next to him. I couldn't get that through because I assumed that it had something to do with like violence to a kid.

Like it was meant to be just kind of a goofy thing. Local models will allow you to play around and kind of do stuff and set your own guardrails. But then obviously, you know, there's some sort of like the downside of that is it will also allow [00:33:00] you to do things which maybe should be guardrails. So it's a balance back and forth either way.

It's just super exciting to see the smaller models get better as well. Well, Gavin, if I said, like, do you think, you know, should we guard rail or not? Is America's fastest growing game show? Yes. If I said, should we allow people to generate images of, let's say, heroic first responders saving animals from burning buildings or from brush fires?

You might say, well, no, I mean, why not have that imagery? But then I guess there's a time and a place where Uh, you know, that imagery could be great in an uplifting montage for a story you want to tell and could be pure misinformation or disinformation and upset, uh, entire communities when they're hunting for accurate information.

We just saw this happen against the backdrop of the Palisades, uh, fire, uh, Palisades, Altadena, Port LA. I mean, the whole city is not catching a break right now. And on social media, people are, uh, even further outraged with [00:34:00] AI slop. That's been infecting their feeds again, as they hunt for real time and accurate information.

Yeah. So I mean, I'll tell you a first person example of my experience with this is that I am in LA and I am about maybe three miles from the edge of the evacuation zone. So I live in the West side, the evacuation zone, if you notice LA and Santa Monica, like stopped at, at Montana Avenue. So I'm probably maybe even less, two miles South of Montana Avenue.

So I was very much in the middle of this search, like looking around for stuff. And what was interesting is, You know, the things that people were sharing, and good note, God knows, like, this has been a really hard week for LA, so if you're here, I feel for you, if you were affected by it, I feel for you, but also please know that, like, this is a really difficult week for many people here, the destruction that happened of people, specifically in the Palisades, but in Altadena as well, where their entire homes are gone, Almost looks like AI, right?

It is that crazy. And so when you start to blur what reality looks like and what AI looks like, you're going to get some [00:35:00] weird places in between. There was a photo that went viral of a Lamborghini sitting in front of a, uh, of a house with a giant fire going up. And I will be completely honest with you. I don't even know if that video, if that photo was faked or not right now.

Like it, it definitely feels like it, but it could have been real. And this is the where weird world where we're sitting in, where for a long time, we were worried about the, the election, right? That the election would create some sort of like stuff like that. But it's much more interesting to think about this and interesting is the wrong word maybe but like about the real time implications of something that has happened.

So when in the same thing happened when we had the, um, attack on, uh, the assassination attempt on Trump, it were like stuff in the first, like, say, Two to six hours has the opportunity to spread in a way that, you know, larger stuff might not. Again, it's just a reminder. You have to just be aware of like what is and what isn't real.

And just kind of question almost everything you [00:36:00] see in a weird way, which is not great for reality overall. Yeah, I had a moment with the, it was the cyber truck in front of the Trump tower, uh, that explosion that happened, you know, around New Year's in L. A. in Vegas, right? In Vegas, yeah, seeing, seeing that imagery and going like, oh, okay, well, that's AI.

I'll just scoot on. And it goes, oh, no, no, no. All right. It's so, yeah, I guess it's destructive on both sides because on one hand, it's very easy to place, place the disinformation, the misinformation, but it erodes the trust. In literally every piece of media that you come by, because these platforms seem to be completely dropping the ball and failing at labeling, um, and going out of their way to say, well, this, you know, the community notes, if you will sometimes take hours, days, weeks, or years to appear.

And the damage is already done by then. So these platforms have got to get their ish together. And Instagram is one of those. There was a, a user future writer U S who posted a, uh, a montage, if you will, of these. Uh, brave and heroic first responders and at first glance you go, Oh, okay. It looks like someone's saving an animal [00:37:00] from a fire in, in, and around Los Angeles.

And then as you look a little further, it's like, wait, it looks like he's almost placing a raccoon into the flames. What is going on here? Like what is happening? And you slowly start to process, Oh, this is AI slop. This is of course. Now you look at it and you go, Oh, Oh, it's absolutely AI. Of course it is.

And the poster claims that they made the video to raise very real awareness for the fact that there's a lot of animals. That get displaced during these times and people need to lend efforts. And, you know, it wasn't their intention to mislead people. They wanted to raise awareness. On the other hand, people are saying, Hey, wait a minute.

You're putting out fake imagery during a time where the real imaging is incredibly damaging. So what are you actually accomplishing here? It's all a very, very complicated, and it goes to what we were talking about before is that as these tools speed up and get better, it's going to blur reality. And actually this kind of speaks well to our next story, which is a little bit goofier, but still damaging to somebody.

There's a story out that a French woman was conned out of [00:38:00] 830, 000 euros, which is 850, 000 by an AI Brad Pitt, which is really crazy. And I understand why, but like if you look at some of the pictures that this woman was sent, it is not that different than like, you know, scamming all the time, but this woman, that Brad Pitt was talking to her and this is photos basically of him, uh, you know, basically what we've seen done on the show.

Simple photo swap, face swap photos. The craziest picture to me is the one where like, He's in the hospital like a bunch of the ones are from him in the hospital and he holds up a picture that says and I love you and like, I think it's important for us to realize, first of all, um, this is obviously just basic scamming training don't get don't get scammed period but like, The people want to believe sometimes that the celebrities have this kind of love for them, but this is a [00:39:00] very simple rudimentary tool that like was used by a true scamming person to get this woman to give them a lot of money and this is the world that we're sitting in now.

Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Bonjour. Bonsoir. And all the times in between. It is either one and only Brad Pitt is very exciting to be here on this magnificent AI for humans podcast with my dear friends, Kevin and Gavin. Oh, no, no, no, sorry. That is. What's going on there? What is that? I, well, I don't know this person and they're saying that we're dear friends of them.

Apparently this is, this is Brad Pitt. This is French Brad Pitt. Well, that's exciting. So French Brad Pitt has called into our show, everybody. He is here. French. Now, is this real Brad Pitt? Let's ask. Cause like, maybe this is Brad Pitt. Because you have the honor, le grand privilège, to speak with Hollywood royalty.

Oui, this is the true Brad [00:40:00] Pitt, live and in the flesh. Well, audio flesh, c'est la même chose, but enough about me. Ha! Who am I kidding? We must talk about me, because I am Brad Pitt, and my life, oh mon dieu, it is so full of glamour and intrigue. I come here with a mission, mes amis, a très important mission.

Oh, wow. Okay, well. Address important mission. Sounds like at the end he's starting to fall into Sean Penn in Fast Times at Richmond High. Address important mission, bro. Well, let's ask him, what is his mission? While we've got him on the phone, you know, clearly we just talked about this story, this may be the real scammer, but he doesn't know that we know that, Kevin.

So let's ask him, let's ask him on the phone what he thinks his real mission is. Yes, real French Brad Pitt. What is your mission here today? You see, I need your help for a super top secret Hollywood project. It is, how you say, an explosion extravaganza. A film with the panache, the chateau drama, [00:41:00] the, ooh, motorcycles flying off cliffs into the Eiffel Tower.

Because this is what we do in Hollywood. We, and so mes amis, the Brad Pitt humbles himself before Kevin, Gavin, and the beautiful audience. I say, help me fund this masterpiece. This is your moment to shine like a bechamel sauce on a cloudy day. That is a very common from someone who's been to France. That is a very common phrase.

They'll say it's like getting a lay at the airport in Hawaii. That's they greet you with that. Let's do this. Let's tell them we're good. We're excited to fund his film. Sure. You want to put in 25 million and we'll, you know, give him 50%. We only want. Like, you know, 50 percent of it, see what he has to say, and then see if he, like, just keeps up the ruse until the very end.

Do we need to request, like, uh, a line from the movie or something? Like, uh Oh yeah! Maybe he can give us, like, uh, uh, we're paying, we'll give him 25 million right now, but we need him to, like, you know, [00:42:00] give us a quick couple lines to make sure we understand we're getting the good stuff. And the name of the movie probably as well.

My poor wife gets kicked out of our tiny trailer when we do this. And then I can see her sometimes politely trying to like pace and make sure Walking around waiting when you're gonna be done. Yeah, make sure we're gonna be done. And then it's like, no, honey, it's really, really important stuff. And I'm like, alright, French Brad Pitt.

Give us the quote about baguettes. Ah, mes amis, explosion royale. Love under fire. The title alone, non? I play Jacques d'Explosion, a French spy who falls for Isabella Flambé, the cartel leader powering a robot with baguettes. Drama, romance, and action. Bam! The quote? Picture this. Flames everywhere. Shirt ripped.

I look deep into Isabella's eyes and say, Love is like the dynamite. You lights a fuse, and you run towards E Boom. She replies, you are my boom. You are my boom! You are my boom, French Brad Pitt. Boom! [00:43:00] Alright everybody, that's French Brad Pitt. We'll send him away, probably to jail for a while. Uh, we want to talk about some of the stuff we saw that other people did this week.

It's time for A. I. I play Jacques d'Explosion. It's time for A. I. C. What You Did There. Sometimes you're scrolling without a care Then suddenly you stop and shout A. I. C. What You Did There A. I. C. What You Did There Okay, so Kev, first and foremost, I want to shout out something. This is from an ex user named Aya Bach.

A Y A B O C H. And she has a startup. And I've been following her startup for a little while. And the startup's name is Fashion. F A S H N. It's a web app. And she took something we've seen before, which is kind of this AI try on thing. And she's obviously selling clothes using it. But the thing that she added, which I thought was just a really cool way [00:44:00] of, of adding an element, is that she basically has the AI try on the device, but then has a little bit of a motion movement going on, meaning that she plugged it into a video model.

So, if you haven't seen these tools before, you upload a picture of yourself, you see a photo of a t shirt, and then you can generally get that t shirt on you. There's an AI model that allows you to do it. This just allows you to see it in motion, which is just the next step, and I think it's a very cool thing.

Yeah, I mean, I could see this being a, like a, uh, a plugin for websites and stuff as you're browsing about and wondering, uh, how is that going to look on me, let me click this thing and take a peek, but, uh, Very simple, but seems to be elegant implementation of, you know, tools that we've, we've referenced before on the show, but again, that's like, this is the new thing, right?

So a new tool comes out, a new, a new white paper and a piece of code. And someone goes, okay, well, how can I productize this? How can I turn this into something that is one click usable for everyone? So kudos to Fashem. And the next thing up is a new episode of AI or [00:45:00] Die has launched. I, you know, I think we talked about this briefly on the show before, but AI or Die is a very fun.

Like Adult Swim length show. It's about, it's usually 10 to 15 minutes and what this is is three guys got together and they basically make Like many sketches using AI. And there's some really good stuff in this one. There's a, uh, Robert Downey jr. stars as a character from one of the other things they made.

There's some really strange stuff. And what I love about AI for dye is that they lean into the weirdness of AI video. And now all of these videos look great. Like they've clearly upgrade upgraded in terms of using the most recent AI video tools and all that stuff. But they often do the things that are very funny with AI that we think work.

Like, you know, there's a video of a guy like running around on the ground in his underwear, and he's just kind of like moving around like a, like a car, just fun stuff. It's a really great use case of AI, and we always love to shout out really good AI creators. So go check it out. Um, well, that brings us to, this is my swamp, which is not one [00:46:00] that I'm going to own this week, Gavin.

I'm not exactly well enough to own it. I'll own it. You sent me this. You love this. And I actually think it's fantastic as well. So this is the guy, his name is Andre, A N D R 3 underscore A I, and he's the one who, if you remember the video of like the big Lord of the Rings, like outdoor rave that was created, he's really an Instagram AI creator.

This is, it's Shrek. It's, uh, Fiona. It is, uh, trap hip hop, and it is quite the thing. Basically, Kev, do you want to play a clip of it so people can listen to it? But we'll also watch it in video.

So if you're not watching this, What you're seeing here is like basically a hip hop, uh, a hip hop Shrek. Uh, Fiona is doing all sorts of, uh Fiona is caked up. Caked up, [00:47:00] yes. She is caked up and workin it. And then I forgot, what's the name of the dragon character? What is the, oh, I don't know. The dragon at the end.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Idea. There's, there's some juicy dragons, uh, Shrek just chilling on top of a, of the hood of a Lambo with this pump shotgun and his, uh, and his, uh, hands like it is just, it is, it is. Dan, in all of the ways you want this track and the video to be. It's just a dumb, fun, uh, crazy thing that obviously because it's Shrek always resonates with me personally.

That's my, that's my heart animal or my heart, uh, spirit animal in some ways. But yes, but I think that this is another good example of taking these AI tools, doing something super strange with them and putting them out into the world. Again, go check it out. It's called My Swamp. We'll put a link in the show notes.

Um, Kevin, we're going to talk a little bit about what we did this week, but actually, uh, you have been very busy and you also were very sick. So I know you didn't have a ton of time to do stuff. I spent a bunch more time with VO2. VO2 is really good. I'm hoping it's going to come out for [00:48:00] everybody soon. Um, I'm in the process of trying to make some sort of new mayonnaise commercial thing, but that has taken off and people really loved it.

The thing that I keep thinking about, Kev, that I want to do, and if anybody in our audience is out there that is interested in thinking about this too, I saw there's a guy who I love on YouTube named AI explained. So AI explained is a very good YouTube channel that he is much smarter than us. If you're looking for a kind of an edge case, learn about the hardcore tech of where these these AI models are going.

He's a great follow. And he explains stuff relatively easily for most people. Now, it might be a little above some people in our audience. That's okay. You should try it. He created his own benchmark and a benchmark in AI is the idea that it's like a test to see how a eyes will do. He created a benchmark called simple bench.

And the idea behind this was he wanted to create a series of things that are easy for humans to do and hard for a eyes and that he would start benching marking it over time as these new things. And benchmarking is a super important point of all AIs because it helps [00:49:00] you see how they're getting better over time.

I have been thinking a lot about, I saw a tweet from somebody, I can't remember who it was. But I keep thinking about the idea of a comedy benchmark or some sort of benchmark that is about Can this AI be funny? And I think you and I both know that AIs in general have failed to be mostly funny unless you know It's like we force them to be funny in some form or another But in general, comedy is a really hard thing.

When I say comedy, it's obviously comedy itself is very broad, but joke telling, surprising people with comedy, making analogies that don't feel cliched, making comments on things like that. So I've been thinking a lot about what it would look like to make a benchmark for creative stuff, but in specific comedy.

And then you had mentioned like, well, it'd be interesting to see a benchmark for like poetry. And to me, that's an interesting kind of part of this conversation as well. Yeah. I mean, look, the. Most, most benchmarks, I shouldn't say most, but I think I can say most. A lot of [00:50:00] times there is a right answer or a wrong answer, right?

It's a coding or a math or a physics based. Scientific question, uh, and you either get it or you don't. But here the results can be completely nebulous. Right. When you're dealing with any creative pursuit. And so, yeah, I'd love to see how it, uh, like, you know, is there, is there, there has to be like a dad jokes or a pun section to this benchmark.

Right. And we can see how this LLM performs against like everybody's father. Uh, I, I would love to get feedback and, and figure out what this looks like. Well, there's interesting because there is a database of our jokes. Speaking of Reddit, somebody scraped all of our jokes. And if you know our jokes, if you're a Reddit user, it's pretty much like dad jokes or jokes that are like kind of set up punchlines.

And I do think that's a way to get into it. You know, I think it could be interesting right now. We have, you know, our French friend, maybe we can have our French friend try to tell us a joke before we go as a census. But I do want to mention. This is something that I'm kind of seriously thinking about right now.

If anybody in our audience is [00:51:00] kind of interested in the idea of this, pop into our discord and spend some time in there and kind of like, kind of engage with us. Cause we're there pretty often. Oh, the other thing, while Kevin's setting up our joke here, we have a newsletter, everybody. It's on ai4humans.

show. You can find the link there, but subscribe to it. It comes out every Tuesday morning. We think you really like it. A lot of people really do. So go check that out. Um, did we get our French friend to come up with a joke for us, Gavin? Of course, yeah. And, um, there's no going back from this once I hit generate, Gavin.

I want you to know that. I just asked AI Brad Pitt for its best joke ever to end the podcast. And I'm letting you know now, I can't go back from it once I hit the button. Like we're, we're, we're. We're done. So, uh, do you have everything out that you need out for this? I have everything out. Okay, so here it comes.

This is a good example of how good the AIs are at humor right now and why we have to figure out a benchmark. Ah, mes amis, you want the joke? Très bien. Why do the French only eat one egg for breakfast? Because one egg is un oeuf. Ha ha. Magnifique. The comedy, it flows [00:52:00] like the fine Bordeaux. Honestly? Not, at least it made sense.

At least it made sense. Bye. Thanks everybody. Bye. We will see y'all next week. Bye. Stop the record. Ha ha ha ha ha ha.