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Massive AI Update From Adobe, Tech Companies Go Nuclear & ChatGPT Knows Too Much

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AI News: Adobe’s Max 2024 showed off a ton of new AI tools like Generative Extend and Project Clean Machine, Amazon and Google are going nuclear (in a good way), rumors swirl around Claude Open 3.5, Nvidia has a great new LLM model that beats GPT-4o & Meta’s new Co-Tracker3 looks amazing. Plus updates from Suno, a hit Instagram restaurant that’s all AI and ChatGPT knows SO much about you.

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// Show Links //

Adobe Firefly Video Updates

https://blog.adobe.com/en/publish/2024/10/14/generate-video-beta-on-firefly-web-app

Generative Extend in Premiere Pro

https://blog.adobe.com/en/publish/2024/10/14/generative-extend-in-premiere-pro

Generate SFX With Your Voice

https://x.com/anukaakash/status/1846336116192133186

Various Adobe “Projects”
https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/15/24271151/adobe-sneak-ai-animation-video-editing-3d-tools

Justine Bateman on “Organic” Filmmaking

https://x.com/tsarnick/status/1846395062554710340

Nuclear Power Updates From Amazon & Google
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/10/16/amazon-goes-nuclear-investing-more-than-500-million-to-develop-small-module-reactors.html

https://arstechnica.com/ai/2024/10/google-and-kairos-sign-nuclear-reactor-deal-with-aim-to-power-ai/

Eric Schmidt mentions how building more power centers will save us:

https://x.com/tsarnick/status/1846138219429351689

Dario’s Amodei’s Machines of Loving Grace Essay

https://darioamodei.com/machines-of-loving-grace

Nvdia New70b Model Beats GPT-4o & Sonnet 3.5

https://x.com/imsh4yy/status/1846589157721715086?s=46

Suno Scenes Update

https://x.com/suno_ai_/status/1846574384963633345

Fake Restaurant ETHOS #1 in Austin

https://x.com/venturetwins/status/1845554883614953472

https://www.ethosatx.net/reservations

Jon Finger Experiments

https://x.com/mrjonfinger/status/1846574400939651400

Running Robots + Running Shoes

https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1g4hqm7/chinese_robotics_company_robot_era_put_two_star1/

MetaAI World Class Point Tracking

https://www.threads.net/@aiatmeta/post/DBMRS6mvTee?xmt=AQGzvg9ZMl6QSWq03MJXnew1VRDtzomYkNNygOq5sE9l8A

E2 & F5 TTS

https://pinokio.computer/

https://huggingface.co/spaces/mrfakename/E2-F5-TTS

Transcript

Kevin Pereira

Hey. Hey, you. buddy, you want some AI upgrades?

Kevin Pereira

It doesn't matter. They're putting AI in everything.

Gavin Purcell

That's right. We're going to run down all the craziest and latest

Gavin Purcell

brand new AI tools. Adobe, a whole bunch of

Kevin Pereira

. Oh, and to power it all. Gavin, Amazon, Microsoft, Google. They're all. Going.

Kevin Pereira

nuclear!

Speaker 2

Kaboom,

Kevin Pereira

baby! No, no, we don't want kaboom No kaboom.

Gavin Purcell

All of that.

Gavin Purcell

Plus robots wearing running shoes and a restaurant on Instagram that is made with AI

Kevin Pereira

And ChatGPT knows way too much about you. We're gonna talk about all that. By the way, not a normal episode

Kevin Pereira

Gavin Purcell

a normal

Kevin Pereira

but it's still

Gavin Purcell

AI for humans, baby.

Gavin Purcell

Adobe's big max event just happened and they brought out a ton of new AI tools. , stuff that we weren't expecting to kind of come out of the Photoshop premiere and after effects world.

Gavin Purcell

Kevin Adobe has their own video platform called Firefly. We've played with it a little bit, but they [00:01:00] dropped a brand new Firefly video model.

Gavin Purcell

I shouldn't say they dropped. They produced videos from. A brand new firefighter lineal model, which looks pretty good. Very good. And 100% certified organic, as they

Kevin Pereira

okay, well,

Kevin Pereira

that's a different story and we're gonna get to that later. But I think the reason you don't hear people sharpening their pitchforks behind us is that Adobe, the company that a lot of artists loved to hate for the longest time is now Somehow, , this bastion of AI hope because they're claiming their models are the cleanest?

Kevin Pereira

Yeah Meaning that the creatives data wasn't swept in there.

Gavin Purcell

Let's talk about some of this stuff they announced, because I do think there's some pretty cool things.

Gavin Purcell

And again, the biggest thing about any of these Adobe products is what they're taking is things we've seen open source or things we've seen runway do, but they're building them into the creative suite that is Adobe products, which, you know, a giant amount of people use every day. They did generative extend, which is in [00:02:00] Adobe premier.

Gavin Purcell

And what this allows you to do is take the last two or three seconds to invent that video footage. Basically. So you have a shot. That you've got, and it just doesn't go far enough, or you want to go a little bit further. You can literally take that shot and now extend it by three seconds and get extra footage there, which is a very cool thing.

Gavin Purcell

I want to add three seconds to you right now. So go for it. What are the, what is the generative? Three seconds.

Speaker 2

have Okay.

Gavin Purcell

Fair enough. You did it. He got it.

Kevin Pereira

The model's in

Kevin Pereira

beta

Kevin Pereira

It's a little rough. Sometimes your face melts into your chest. But no so two examples that they showed off. One was someone kind of like doing a parkour

Gavin Purcell

Yeah. Very

Kevin Pereira

which,

Kevin Pereira

it had to generate buildings in the background where it didn't have the data for that.

Kevin Pereira

It had to deal with a human in a different pose than just casually strolling down the street. It handled that really well. Another example where someone had a really wonky, camera shot. It was like, travel video and they wanted it smoother.

Kevin Pereira

So they cut it off before they went crazy with their camera and said, extended it

Gavin Purcell

And it, it, [00:03:00] works.

Kevin Pereira

good job. So that's really impressive. And there's a bunch of use cases for this when it's built into the program that you're

Gavin Purcell

using.

Speaker 2

And again To

Gavin Purcell

go back to that thing about all editors, especially, but even directors, people that make, you know, their own home movies will use premiere or the Adobe tools.

Gavin Purcell

And suddenly this is like one more tool in your tool set in the same way that Photoshop stamp tool was right. Or blend these things

Gavin Purcell

that came

Gavin Purcell

out 10 to 15 years ago. Oh,

Gavin Purcell

did I

Kevin Pereira

of blend?

Kevin Pereira

can we talk about

Kevin Pereira

Project

Kevin Pereira

Photo Blend?

Speaker 2

Gavin Purcell

know the names are

Gavin Purcell

insane. I even have these like projects. It's like eli Ross project blend. There are six different people and they're putting into a blender.

Kevin Pereira

from our Dimension 9 division, out of Sector 17, it's Project Photo Blend. But as someone who sucks at Photoshop and Canva and everything else, and makes a lot of the thumbnails, you and I jam all the time on these thumbnails.

You can take subjects from completely different photos in completely different [00

04:00] lighting, uh, situations. You could take someone that's like tan like me, but I have to kind of pale myself up, so I try to match Gavin. We have to color correct. We split it in the middle.

Kevin Pereira

. But the point is, you can take different subjects in mixed lighting conditions, mash a single button, and it uses AI to match the shadows,

Kevin Pereira

to match

Gavin Purcell

If you at home, we don't have this yet. We would use this on this exact video. So you're, you're looking at two people that are movie television

Speaker 2

professionals. Anyway, it's

Gavin Purcell

another very cool thing. They had a bunch of people, first of all, the way they rolled this out, it was crazy. The event where they're like on a giant stage, Adobe knows what they're doing, right? Their business is selling people a 600, $2,000 subscription. Now a year. And they know they gotta keep rolling this stuff out.

Gavin Purcell

Honestly, they're shipping a lot of stuff and I have to say, I appreciate that. The audio stuff they ship was pretty cool too. Like they had this video of a guy will show it here in a second, but they had this video of a guy who kind of roars you see the roaring video.

Speaker 2

it? What

Kevin Pereira

did his roar sound like [00:05:00] gavin

Kevin Pereira

before

Speaker 2

That's my

Gavin Purcell

impression of that guy. Here, take a look at this video.

RAWR! RAWR! Alright, the growls down, now let's see what we get back. I'm going to type in monster growl, and I'm going to hit generate. It's going to be using the precise timing, dynamics, and energy of my voice to drive the generation.

Gavin Purcell

Now, what he's going to do. Is he going to put it into the system? And he's going to have the AI change his RAR into RAR.

Kevin Pereira

Excuse me, sir, is that a zip file? No, it's

Speaker 2

rar

Gavin Purcell

By the way we are both. I don't know. This didn't work out well, but we're both. Extremely

Speaker 2

exhausted.

Speaker 2

Yeah,

Kevin Pereira

and we know YouTube and podcast listeners just don't care.

Kevin Pereira

They just want the info, but I'm coming off of a telecompany retreat and you're coming off. Do you even want to say what you're coming off of?

Gavin Purcell

I'm just saying my dog was sick last night and I was up all night long.

Gavin Purcell

So that's where we're coming off of. So, anyway,

Kevin Pereira

, RAR into

Speaker 2

RAR

Alright, are we ready everyone? Yes! Let's see what we get.

Whoa!

Kevin Pereira

Very very cool. I want to see Obviously they are showing off examples that they have run a million times Backstage and back in the labs where they're developing project blend , I want to get my hands on it and see how extensive it is.

Kevin Pereira

And finally, another project gavin Project Clean Machine.

Gavin Purcell

What happens in clean machine, Kevin?

Kevin Pereira

I project Clean Machine is something that can remove , bright flashes or strobes or lighting artifacts from videos and some of the examples that they showed were like, Fireworks in the sky, completely blowing out the frame.

Gavin Purcell

to amazing

Kevin Pereira

Press a button and now you can see the fireworks clear as night.

Gavin Purcell

Well, what's crazy about that is like you, it almost looks unreal, right? When you see it in a [00:07:00] weird way. And one of the things that's going to be strange is getting used to pictures that don't have these lens flares and stuff. And then that we've been used to for so long.

Gavin Purcell

And I think there will be like this reminiscence of like the, you know, there is a, like two thousands digital photography now with like bad camera lenses and all that stuff, because this is so clean. When you look at this version of it, they have a slider in the video that goes back and forth and you see the couple.

Gavin Purcell

So it's a couple that's blown out by the kind of light of. The fireworks behind them, they take the slider on it. You did not blown that at all. And it's

Speaker 2

incredible No, and

Kevin Pereira

it's adding detail that was blown out, there's another example where there's a bunch of like flashbulbs going off. It's like paparazzi style, , video. And, , It immediately gets rid of them. It blends everything nicely.

Gavin Purcell

Overall this event. Kind of surprised me how good it was. I think there's a lot of cool stuff

Speaker 2

Kevin Pereira

I don't really use Adobe products as my daily driver.

Kevin Pereira

This gets me way more interested. when it comes to things like Final Cut and even Logic, I am wondering Where are all the AI enhancements and upgrades? Cause Adobe keeps dropping these hits. NVIDIA, Microsoft, [00:08:00] Apple has got to wake up behind

Kevin Pereira

the

Gavin Purcell

wake up apple. The

Speaker 2

I just want them to,

Speaker 2

you

Gavin Purcell

know someone who's not going to be using these tools?

Gavin Purcell

Kevin?

Kevin Pereira

Oh, I can think of a few people, Gavin, but I think you're referring to Justine

Gavin Purcell

That's right. So Jesse Bateman, who, by the way, I admire the fact that she's gone out and has this very strong stance against AI. Very much though. She hates AI and we've talked about her before on the show. She is decided to come up with a new sort of, I guess, what do you call it?

Gavin Purcell

A standard. That she wants to refer label, a

Speaker 2

certification

Speaker 2

certification

Gavin Purcell

human made organic movies. So let's take a listen to that.

Last year, um, myself, uh, Reed Moreno, um, uh, Matt Weiner, and some others, we established a Credo 23 stamp that's sort of an organic stamp for films that tell the audience that no AI was used. Because I was thinking, I'm sure audiences are going to want to know, am I looking at a person? You know, it's not like, sure, they want to be taken for a ride, they want to, you know, visual effects and all this, you know.

Uh, do they think in Pirates of the [00

09:00] Caribbean that that per that guy really did have like an octopus face? No. But, you know what I mean? People want to be taken for a ride like that, but they don't like to be tricked. They don't like to be betrayed.

Kevin Pereira

Guess I'm really sorry to the Marvel Avengers because they will no longer be able to be in a movie because they tricked me.

Gavin Purcell

Well, this is, what's so weird about this argument, right?

Gavin Purcell

In that she is a filmmaker and she makes movies and wants to make movies with humans. Doesn't want to use AI effects, which is totally fair and totally fine. And the thing that she very clearly mentions in there is the pirates of the Caribbean movie, which they have squid phase people.

Gavin Purcell

And guess what? Yeah, that's just what all these AI filmmakers are a version of what they're doing. We have talked about this before, and none of these big companies have come out and said anything about it, but I guarantee you, these large effects companies have trained on other things than what they're admitting to.

Kevin Pereira

We just showed off five really cool, up and coming features that Adobe's putting into their products. I, I [00:10:00] understand what Justine is advocating for and if they want that, great, go for it.

Kevin Pereira

The devil is going to be in these impossible to untangle details because I'm sure somewhere a VFX supervisor is using an Adobe tool that has AI in it. To upgrade a shot.

Speaker 2

Well

Gavin Purcell

And is she going to be now on anti Adobe? So no cutting on premiere. Right. So final cut. Is that going to be organic? Probably not. After the apple intelligence stuff comes out. At some point, it becomes a question of, are you happy to go back to like real, to real

Speaker 2

edit You got to

Kevin Pereira

cut on film and it has to be steam powered.

Gavin Purcell

, we've said everybody, there is an original SIM with AI that a lot of these were trained on people's work and we want people to get paid for it.

Gavin Purcell

But at some point you have to say, this is the way things move forward. This is the way the. The effects move forward. This is the way people edit, move forward. It is what it

Kevin Pereira

I guess the other thing is like, look, if it's cinema, trick me.

Kevin Pereira

Fool me. Fine. Make it great. If it's a social media feed, and AI has generated something to mislead me, , or it's propaganda or whatever, yeah, well, I would want [00:11:00] to know then, but no one's gonna go out of their way to put a label on

Gavin Purcell

No. No, honestly, that's a really interesting, she's asked for labels on things you kind of want to be fooled

Kevin Pereira

yeah, there is a suspension of disbelief. Go ahead machine, dazzle me, , convince me, confuse me, that's fine. But when it's, uh, I don't know, Instagram or TikTok or where you get all your news, X, let me know if it's

Kevin Pereira

real or

Gavin Purcell

Kevin.

Gavin Purcell

If it's on YouTube, where you're, here watching us and you should just hit that subscribe button right now. It's right here. Well, it's probably it's down here. It's down here. Go hit our subscribe. We love it when people subscribe to us, it's one of our favorite

Kevin Pereira

Gavin calls me all every time we get a new sub,

Gavin Purcell

One more, one more. We got one more, buddy.

Gavin Purcell

One more. It's also follow us on all the podcast platforms, apple podcast, Spotify. And Kevin, and we do have a couple of five star reviews. Oh,

Kevin Pereira

I love it. That's, that's our thing. Hey, leave us a five star review on Apple Podcasts. We will read each and every word of it on the audio version of this show, which exists on all podcast platforms.

Kevin Pereira

Plus, we have a [00:12:00] newsletter. We'll probably plug that later, but it is going Gangbusters, as they say.

Gavin Purcell

is going gang

Kevin Pereira

They say gangbusters, that's what they say.

Kevin Pereira

Speaker 2

you

Gavin Purcell

what else they say nuclear power is back, baby. It's true.

Kevin Pereira

They shout it in my

Gavin Purcell

I have a bumper sticker. My grandmother, who is anti nukes has a bumper sticker that just says nuclear power is back,

Kevin Pereira

hard to see because she rolls coal all the time and it's just a cloud of black smoke, but if she parks, you can read that bumper sticker.

Kevin Pereira

Gavin Purcell

And interestingly about this, my grandmother was very active in the anti-nuke movement of the eighties.

Gavin Purcell

And this sets up the story really well, because I think the reason why. Nuclear power completely went away is a couple of reasons. One, there was, , meltdowns, which obviously terrible, horrible things, but also we were all, when I was a kid I'm a little older than you are. We were scared of nuclear power.

Gavin Purcell

And now. The big news here is that Microsoft, Google OpenAI open AI as well. There've been a couple of their stories are all opening nuclear power plants. In fact, the biggest stories this week are Amazon is going to invest $500 million in [00:13:00] nuclear power. Google is partnering to make a nuclear reactor deal. And why Kevin are they actually bringing back nuclear power? Why is it toxic Avenger suddenly going to have life again? What is the

Speaker 2

of this

Kevin Pereira

Because we have to have next generation autocomplete!

Gavin Purcell

complete.

Kevin Pereira

That's all

Gavin Purcell

is?

Gavin Purcell

It's the mutans to. Castic parrots. It's. I've

Speaker 2

It's

Kevin Pereira

so that we can train these foundational models, which require a ton of energy to power the chips, and then, when you want to run the models, because every device is going to be tapping into that trained intelligence, it takes energy.

Speaker 2

Gavin Purcell

that's inference is what Kevin's deferring to, which means that the truth that when you run on a model, that's the

Speaker 2

inference

Speaker 2

called I

Kevin Pereira

wasn't inferring it, I was saying

Kevin Pereira

it. explicitly It's

Gavin Purcell

called inference, Kevin. But yes.

Gavin Purcell

Anyway, so what we're talking about here is some way we brought up the last couple of weeks is that the energy needs of AI in general are massive. And they're only going to get bigger as people talk about the GPT five. Five sixes and sevens, the O one twos and threes of the world. Each of those is an [00:14:00] exponential rise in how much power you need Invidia and Jensen Wong is going to ship these Blackwell chips. Each of those has more power than before. So we are talking about a massive step change up and , people rightfully are wondering, well, how we've been talking about the environment for the last 20 years.

Gavin Purcell

This feels like, at least it's a go between, right? Because what they're not doing is saying shovel more coal. They're not trying to find more natural gas. They're saying, Hey, we have a clean power source, clean quote, unquote that we have just not been using because people have afraid of it.

Speaker 2

Right. And by the way, the technology has advanced and evolved since your grandmother's nuke reactors, right? That doesn't mean that they're probably 100 percent safe, and they're going for, I love it, the 500 million investment in Dominion Energy, which does a, what was the term for it? Which I love. Oh, an SMR, Gavin?

Speaker 2

Small. what is

Gavin Purcell

Was it small module

Speaker 2

right.

Kevin Pereira

Small Module, it's, it's small! Oh! Right? Doesn't that diffuse anything It only comes up to your kneecaps. Don't worry if it melts down

Speaker 2

Gavin Purcell

think the big thing [00:15:00] here is that people were sold a bill of goods a little bit coming out of the eighties and nineties about nuclear power. And it's one of those things where. We walked away from it.

Gavin Purcell

Right. We walked away from it and, and bill gates has actually been out there, chatting us up. In fact, there's a great interview with bill gates and Kara Swisher on her most recent podcast where he talks about, have you seen his show on Netflix yet? He's doing a show

Speaker 2

Netflix Yeah.

Gavin Purcell

And one of them is about power and climate change and all that stuff.

Gavin Purcell

And he's a big advocate of nuclear power in. It just doesn't produce the waste that we think it does now. This. I hope I'm not coming off like a, I D I did not get paid by the nuclear industry for this, but if we are going to get to all the stuff that people think we can get to in the world of AI, we are going to need more power, and it's not going to be renewables.

Gavin Purcell

We're not there yet. And it shouldn't be, , coal or gas or anything that is, going to make the climate change

Speaker 2

thing

Kevin Pereira

Listen, i'm not bought and paid for like gavin is I don't know if you can see his strings. I will not pretend for one second, like I'm barely an expert in [00:16:00] anything.

Kevin Pereira

I will not pretend to be an energy expert, but I do absorb the conversations, which seem to be, we need more, we're going to need it. And the massive infrastructure overhaul that we're going to get of these data centers being built closer to the transmission lines and everything, like this is, this is.

Gavin Purcell

by land

Gavin Purcell

by late.

Kevin Pereira

yeah. Oh sure Yeah. Go ahead. Yeah. Go ahead and just buy up some land,

Gavin Purcell

everyone.

Gavin Purcell

I buy land this, I actually do, you know, this theory that if the singularity happens, so this is some deep nerd stuff. Everybody has been singularity happens.

Gavin Purcell

the only thing that's going to be valuable. And do you know why, why. Because it was very nice.

Gavin Purcell

Why, by the way, You feel like you've been acting. It's at that you're earnestly interested.

Gavin Purcell

Yeah. Okay,

Speaker 2

bye. Anyway.

Kevin Pereira

I don't know, I don't know if that was an insult or not.

Kevin Pereira

No,

Gavin Purcell

No it wasn't an

Kevin Pereira

wasn't an insult. What, tell, please tell me

Kevin Pereira

why, land

Kevin Pereira

is the only

Speaker 2

thing

Gavin Purcell

if the robots do take over and there's an ASI. Every piece of land that they can build a server farm on will be valuable. Whereas we're not going to

Speaker 2

you think

Kevin Pereira

that they're going to like, honor the fact that you own a deed to a piece of soil? They're not just going to Terminator

Kevin Pereira

roll over your

Gavin Purcell

Well, I guess it's. No.

Speaker 7

Excuse

Speaker 7

me,

Gavin Purcell

no, You're

Speaker 7

T 800, uh, I actually have been paying property taxes on this parcel.

Speaker 7

I'm a

Speaker 2

globule

Speaker 2

You got

Kevin Pereira

globbed you got

Gavin Purcell

caught. Let's talk about Eric Schmidt, who is now the guy that comes out and tells everybody. Oh, how much.

Speaker 2

yeah,

Gavin Purcell

guy, I don't know what he's doing these days, but so Eric Schmidt is ex CEO of Google. He went out there and it's now turned into like, we're going to fire the environment

Speaker 2

and just

Kevin Pereira

mean

Kevin Pereira

I'll just tell him, Hey, listen, you're all fucked. Anyways, you might as well roll the dice with this AI.

Kevin Pereira

That's

Gavin Purcell

honestly what he's saying here, basically.

Gavin Purcell

So let's play this video. Yeah.

18:00]

Kevin Pereira

I'll say this man. Are we in a bubble Yeah, We're in a bubble and that there's a lot of like fly by night startups promising something that are gonna just be absorbed and go away We're in we're in a bit of a bubble Are we headed for massive change and is this new tech going to be driving the next decade plus of?

Gavin Purcell

Kevin Pereira

infrastructure and technology and job creation and disruption. There's no

Gavin Purcell

doubt

Gavin Purcell

Uh, one thing I want [00:19:00] to say about that, which is really smart is not my thing. Your thing is very smart, which I wanted to, I want to

Gavin Purcell

that.

Gavin Purcell

That wasn't it.

Speaker 2

were you

Gavin Purcell

was being sincere. Thanks. Sits. We've been doing this podcast for a year and a half.

Gavin Purcell

Now, one of the things that is shocking to me a little bit is at one point, we've talked about this sort of stuff about how the infrastructure of America could something like this could happen. It is happening. Yeah. People are restarting nuclear reactors. They are building new nuclear reactors to do the stuff that we have talked about here for 18 months. That shows you how fast this is running.

Gavin Purcell

And that follows up on a really interesting blog post that I made a whole video about that. If you want to see, you should go back and watch her

Speaker 2

YouTube

Speaker 2

channel.

Speaker 2

A great

Kevin Pereira

video, by the way. He says earnestly.

Gavin Purcell

you.

Gavin Purcell

That was a very earnest and I appreciate it. Darrio Modi, the CEO of anthropic former, formerly of open AI left for that to go start, anthropic wrote a very long blog post about the positive, optimistic outcomes of what essentially an ASI, or even like a really an AGI could [00:20:00] provide.

Gavin Purcell

And the biggest things to be aware of that he kind of lays into, we talk on the show a lot about like dumb video tools or fun things to do, or like funny things. He's talking about like biological improvements. Solving Disease

Kevin Pereira

gonna say eradication of disease, um, hyper targeting cancers, even, even like getting rid of like certain mental illnesses , therapies for PTSD, discovering new proteins and material sciences.

Kevin Pereira

Is a utopian vision of things and he does acknowledge we may fall. Short of that, but even some progress along that path means extending human longevity and maybe, increasing the quality of our experience while we are on this earth as well.

Speaker 2

And In five

Gavin Purcell

In five to 10 years. It feels like it's changing pretty fast. I mean, will it go all the way down to them in some sort of like on the ground level? Maybe not in five to 10 years, but if they go to the doctor in five years and they get in, get a cure for something that would have killed them five years ago, that seems like what these people are promising.

Gavin Purcell

Again, we haven't seen the huge breakthroughs yet, but when you think about things [00:21:00] like Daria pointed out CRISPR. And you think about other things that have been pretty massive advancements in science that are in part due to these tools early on. If the amount of money that's poured into this of last two years is just going to shoot that to, is this going to hit that further?

Speaker 2

I feel

Speaker 2

Gavin Purcell

A couple of quickies before we move on to AI. See what you did there. We first have a new model from Nvidia dropped, actually Nvidia. It is called

Kevin Pereira

nemotron

Kevin Pereira

Nemotron? Finding Nemotron It's Llama 3. 1

Speaker 2

Nemotron Up

Gavin Purcell

We'll be finding Dory trine.

Kevin Pereira

I like Nemotron being the ultimate Disney mashup where the fish is on a light bike.

Gavin Purcell

Or maybe Nimo Tron is going to be the robot that kills us. It'll just swim through the air

Gavin Purcell

and

Speaker 2

into our

Speaker 2

it's too

Kevin Pereira

bad you own this land. I guess. I can't assimilate

Gavin Purcell

Yeah. Well, you said. Will you sign the land over to me? Nimo drawn. No Nimmo. Tron. It's my land. I leaving this. Anyway, sorry.

Gavin Purcell

Nimo Tron is a brand new open source model [00:22:00] from Nvidia at 70 billion parameters and it beats. According to testing. I've not spent a ton of time with it yet. GPT four. Oh and Claude

Speaker 2

Sonnet 3. 4.

Kevin Pereira

Yeah, benchmark.

Kevin Pereira

beats it, not vibe beats it which no, it's true, that's an important thing, like when humans use something, like, oh, the vibes are off on this one, , but benchmark, it beats it.

Kevin Pereira

And by the way, if you are literally any one of Uh, NVIDIA's massive customers, Microsoft, Google, even Meta, right? You're giving them billions of dollars for processors to train models, and they're like, Hey, by

Gavin Purcell

the

Gavin Purcell

way,

Gavin Purcell

What are you doing guys?

Kevin Pereira

We could drop

Gavin Purcell

off.

Kevin Pereira

own

Gavin Purcell

Well, this is the beauty of the open source models, right? Because when you can do something like that, I will say something that people expect. And there's a little bit of rumor going on right now is Claude. OPAs 3.5 has been waiting on for a bit. We expect that to come sometime soon, again, it is what are we at now? October 16th, we are three weeks away from an American election. I do not expect a giant thing dropping, pre that, but [00:23:00] after the election,

Speaker 2

All

Speaker 2

bets are off

Gavin Purcell

I feel like all bets are

Kevin Pereira

yeah. Will. i. am shows up as a hologram on the coffee table. You don't want him there,

Gavin Purcell

he's

Kevin Pereira

Hey. let's talk SUNO. because Oh, yeah, let's talk Suno. Suno dropped a new feature that I, I look, we, I'm a Suno fanboy. I think you are as well. Shout out to the Suno team. Mostly Mostly Mostly.

Kevin Pereira

Yeah,

Gavin Purcell

I like it, but not as much as it Oh, okay. I look, I, I gush a bit.

Kevin Pereira

All right. I'm a, I'm a music wonk. I get

Kevin Pereira

I like suno. They dropped a new feature that I was ready to shade. And, uh, yeah, . So, okay. It's called Suno scenes and it works at least on their iOS app. I don't know if they even have an Android app. I should know that, but I don't but it does work on the iOS app.

Kevin Pereira

If you fire it up, they will give you a free scene generation and you can take a photo or upload one from your photo roll, and it will generate a song with your image as the background to the song,

Kevin Pereira

and it follows the lyrics like karaoke. And I, at first saw

Kevin Pereira

this and was

Gavin Purcell

like,

Kevin Pereira

Come on guys, I get it.

Kevin Pereira

You're trying to make it a little bit more [00:24:00] personal. I have a photo, it's my background. Because once you upload it, it asks you for like, is there anything you want to describe about the scene? Like, who's in it, and what's going on, and where is it? And I was like, nah, shouldn't it be

Gavin Purcell

I shouldn't

Kevin Pereira

doing that?

Gavin Purcell

it out.

Gavin Purcell

Yeah. Cool.

Gavin Purcell

Yeah.

Kevin Pereira

tried to trip it up, because I didn't know exactly how it works. I sit corrected. I took a photo this morning in front of a no parking sign with my sunglasses on and, uh, holding up a coffee cup and I told it I was a Martian on a, like, a random planet because I was going

Kevin Pereira

to see

Kevin Pereira

if it was just going

Kevin Pereira

to make

Kevin Pereira

it about Alien

Gavin Purcell

travel.

Gavin Purcell

Yeah,

Kevin Pereira

It's it used Martian as a thing like a Martian arrives and it says but they can't like park here

Kevin Pereira

And

Gavin Purcell

fine. Coffee.

Kevin Pereira

and this at the other so it is doing object slash scene detection

Kevin Pereira

and using that to inform the lyrics of Of the

Gavin Purcell

It's, what's funny because it's really not. When you think about like the back end of [00:25:00] that, we know it's not that complicated based on what's available, they're just taking a picture and then having a vision model.

Speaker 2

See it. literally look at it and go,

Kevin Pereira

Oh, there's a coffee cup. Okay. Put that in the lyrics and having AI write it. But there is something so simple and magical about being able to do

Gavin Purcell

Should we try it right

Kevin Pereira

We should absolutely try it

Gavin Purcell

Do you have your phone?

Kevin Pereira

do have my phone.

Kevin Pereira

Hold

Gavin Purcell

on. Why

Kevin Pereira

So I'm gonna hit create on the iOS app, here you can see it. Now you can do text, you can do audio obviously, but by default now it's camera.

Kevin Pereira

So what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna switch to selfie mode. We have microphones, we have this. Okay, beautiful. Now it says, You know, who's in this scene, where's it set, , what style of music do you want? Uh, Let's

Kevin Pereira

make

Kevin Pereira

like Brazilian funk, right.

Speaker 2

No,

Gavin Purcell

Brazilian funk is good, but let's do I'm grime

Speaker 2

rap,

Kevin Pereira

Grime rap, okay,

Gavin Purcell

You

Kevin Pereira

um grime rap is?

Kevin Pereira

I don't.

Gavin Purcell

It's great.

Gavin Purcell

It's British. It's really, it's

Speaker 2

like,

Speaker 2

um,

Kevin Pereira

Oi! Guv'na!

Gavin Purcell

Yeah,

Speaker 2

little bit like that, a little bit like that.

Speaker 7

Oi! She took me lift to me bottom, bruh!

Speaker 2

pretty close.

Gavin Purcell

Pretty close.

Gavin Purcell

Yeah. Yeah, pretty close. Okay. Let's see.

Gavin Purcell

Grime

Speaker 2

rapping. Uh,

Kevin Pereira

okay,

Gavin Purcell

kevin and

Speaker 2

Gavin.

Speaker 2

Gavin Purcell

the

Gavin Purcell

style.

Speaker 2

Yeah

Gavin Purcell

And the style of ground rap.

Kevin Pereira

Alright, so I hit create. It has a beautiful photo of the two of us. It is going off into the magical cloud. Quote, our groove is on

Gavin Purcell

the

Gavin Purcell

way.

Gavin Purcell

Oh,

Kevin Pereira

Oh, groove

Gavin Purcell

Is on the way.

Speaker 2

Gavin Purcell

Hey, you probably can't put that

Speaker 2

in here,

Kevin Pereira

guess I, I don't think, oh no, but I don't think you're gonna trigger the content flagging right there.

Kevin Pereira

Gavin moves on way

Kevin Pereira

How fast is it? Oh almost it song is ready.

Gavin Purcell

You know, the app looks good. I've never been in the

Gavin Purcell

app.

Speaker 2

Gavin Purcell

our wide eyes.

Kevin Pereira

Wide eyed. We're holding the

Kevin Pereira

mic.

Kevin Pereira

We're at home. We're a dynamic duo.

Kevin Pereira

Yeah

Kevin Pereira

mean if we held different objects like the pillow or the plant, we might get more out of it.

Gavin Purcell

That's pretty cool. So basically it's a seeing a photo of you and then it will make up and we already know how good SUNO is at making songs. So it's basically getting an input from the picture, describing the picture.

Gavin Purcell

That's a

Speaker 2

really

Speaker 2

cool

Speaker 2

thing.

Speaker 2

Yeah,

Gavin Purcell

think people would

Speaker 2

Kevin Pereira

your friend's wearing a silly outfit, or has some fun glasses on or whatever, it's really simple to snap the photo, say, [00:27:00] Hey, we're at a Joshua Tree retreat, and then it sings about the mushrooms

Gavin Purcell

And do you get that for

Speaker 2

free?

Kevin Pereira

they give you a free one, Uh, for sure.

Kevin Pereira

I don't know if it's using the credits that I have in Suno for the subsequent generations, but you should check it out. You're at least going to get one for free. So shout out, not sponsored, but we do love Suno and, uh, I sit corrected. I enjoyed the scenes feature. I'm excited see where it goes.

Gavin Purcell

That's right. All right. Everybody it's time for us to shout out some of the favorite things we saw in AI this week. It is time for AI. I see what you did there.

Gavin Purcell

All right.

Gavin Purcell

So we have some fun ones this week. one of my favorite things I saw this week is a brand new restaurant

Speaker 2

Oh, which?

Kevin Pereira

Oh.

Kevin Pereira

Ethos

Kevin Pereira

It's

Kevin Pereira

Austin.

Kevin Pereira

Oh, so good. So good. Austin foodie scene. I was there uh

Gavin Purcell

They have a Madang

Speaker 2

croissant.

Speaker 2

Have

Kevin Pereira

you ever seen it? No, I've had it. [00:28:00]

Kevin Pereira

I've had it I was there.

Kevin Pereira

It's so buttery so flaky Um, but also has a little crunch

Gavin Purcell

a little bite

Gavin Purcell

and I Kevin's lying. Everybody's lying.

Gavin Purcell

This restaurant does not exist. It is AI don't trust him at all.

Speaker 2

What?

Gavin Purcell

can't trust One

Kevin Pereira

minute Hold on How could it be how could it be fake if there are tens of thousands of positive reviews photos of the food the wait staff?

Gavin Purcell

look, the chef. So this is an experiment somebody made on Instagram and basically what they did is they took their time and made a bunch of fake food pictures.

Gavin Purcell

We've seen things like this, right? On Instagram. You've probably seen things like this. There are all sorts of AI, things that are getting. Liked shared all over the place. There was that one, like crazy like pool house thing we saw. So this is somebody that basically put a brand around those things. They just basically made it look like a fancy restaurant would, but with all sorts of crazy stuff, like a mood Ang style croissant, they also had a foot shaped slice of pizza, which was very funny.

Gavin Purcell

And they've also then gone so far as to making a fake website where you can make fake reservations, which is even more fun. In fact, [00:29:00] why don't we try this? I was going to try it earlier to put in my, see what happens.

Gavin Purcell

you try

Speaker 2

pick

Speaker 2

date,

Kevin Pereira

we'll go May 14th at four o'clock. Does that

Kevin Pereira

work you

Gavin Purcell

that's fine

Speaker 2

for me.

Speaker 2

Sure.

Kevin Pereira

Okay.

Kevin Pereira

We'll go early dinner. Number of

Kevin Pereira

guests. We'll

Gavin Purcell

Let's do four guests. Yeah, 40. Sure. Why not?

Kevin Pereira

guests. And we'll check availability

Gavin Purcell

and

Gavin Purcell

it's

Gavin Purcell

Oh, Who's this

Speaker 2

guy.

Kevin Pereira

What just happened?

Gavin Purcell

Oh!

Gavin Purcell

what was

Kevin Pereira

that?

Kevin Pereira

Oh, you can, you control it. Uh, well, okay.

Kevin Pereira

Wait a second. it is a photo of a, of a, of a man, uh.

Gavin Purcell

Being slapped by a elephant trunk? No. Oh no, it's a, it's eel. Is it an or a

Kevin Pereira

fish

Kevin Pereira

salamander, some sort of fish,

Gavin Purcell

or is it a Oh, you know what?

Gavin Purcell

It might be as a squid arm.

Speaker 2

a squid arm.

Kevin Pereira

No, there's

Gavin Purcell

like fins on it, and then now

Gavin Purcell

we have just discovered a Easter egg on the site

Speaker 2

ethos restaurant.

Kevin Pereira

I mean, we didn't go very far

Kevin Pereira

to uncover It let's We just made a

Kevin Pereira

reservation,

Gavin Purcell

it's not like

Kevin Pereira

Guys, welcome to episode 37 of Project Ethos. We uncovered, uh, quite a big one at the head of the [00:30:00] The ethos

Gavin Purcell

Anyway, it's a very funny Instagram

Kevin Pereira

And

Gavin Purcell

Mostly.

Kevin Pereira

uh, you can tip them, buy me a coffee.

Gavin Purcell

So, which is really

Gavin Purcell

cool.

Speaker 2

Oh, is

Kevin Pereira

is What is eel? It says about eel slap high. Over 50 million people have slapped me in the face with an eel and all I got was a massive server bill. So

Kevin Pereira

Gavin Purcell

maybe the EAL slap guy

Gavin Purcell

is the guy

Gavin Purcell

made

Gavin Purcell

reservation, it takes you to

Kevin Pereira

Eel

Gavin Purcell

So ill slab guys, the guy that

Speaker 2

made,

Speaker 2

uh, ethos

Kevin Pereira

we don't, you'll have to tune it. Episode 47 of Tripping The Ethos when we try to unravel the mystery,

Gavin Purcell

Shout out to venture twins, who again, posted this on X and we saw it originally.

Kevin Pereira

Gavin, someone I want to shout out real

Kevin Pereira

quick I

Kevin Pereira

know if you've seen John Finger on X or on the Twittersphere if you will, but John Finger, he's a director, bit of a world builder, quite a storyteller,

Gavin Purcell

Angeles based artists. And so

Gavin Purcell

what John does is John does a lot of video to video experiments. So he's a guy who's been doing things with AI for awhile, but he'll take this video is really cool where he's basically created himself in a cyberpunk looking [00:31:00] thing, but he's just recorded himself in his garage or in his yard.

Gavin Purcell

And then what he does is he video the videos, it using

Speaker 2

runway.

Speaker 2

it's

Kevin Pereira

really cool. When a Pringles can can become, , a super sniper rifle, or, a coffee cup can become a flying saucer.

Kevin Pereira

Like, that's really cool. Unfortunately, though, his short films have been rejected by Justine Bateman.

Kevin Pereira

They are

Kevin Pereira

not

Kevin Pereira

They are

Kevin Pereira

not

Kevin Pereira

organic. It's a lot of filler.

Gavin Purcell

shout out John finger. We love your work. So keep doing what you do and share your videos. I think a lot of people are being inspired by you.

Kevin Pereira

Thanks, John finger. meta AI keeps dropping the hits. I don't know how long Zuck is going to keep this up. Like at some point he's going to pull

Gavin Purcell

it all and private.

Kevin Pereira

it all.

Gavin Purcell

He's got bajillions of dollars.

Kevin Pereira

Yeah, but he wants, he wants

Gavin Purcell

trillions of dollars,

WowMeta Is somehow making money open sourcing all of the things. Meta AI world class point tracking. This maybe is only exciting to me.

Kevin Pereira

Click the video Oh, you've seen

Gavin Purcell

it It's

Kevin Pereira

yeah. So, so why does this matter? Point tracking [00:32:00] is being able to actually track a point, a single pixel, , an area on an object, a person or whatever, and track it throughout time and space, , use cases of this, obviously special effects you can rotoscope somebody, pull them out from the background robotics, whether you're a one of Palmer Lucky's death

Gavin Purcell

drones,

Kevin Pereira

you

Gavin Purcell

a fish that swims into your room and then tries to take over your land. That's. Remember that 20 minutes ago. That

Gavin Purcell

could be

Speaker 2

one of

Speaker 2

those,

Kevin Pereira

could be

Kevin Pereira

it could be one of those. But if you're an autonomous robot, and you need to track items, and something gets in front of your face, or whatever, for fully autonomous vehicles, The point is, Meta has a new process that seems to blow away.

Kevin Pereira

Everything else. And when you look at the examples, even like there's one where they take a pillow, Gavin, and it kind of shows you like a rainbow gradient of the way it's tracking all the points. They squeeze the pillow and you watch the wrinkles of the pillow form within the tracked points. Why does that matter in [00:33:00] the world where Meta is going to have augmented reality in glasses.

Kevin Pereira

If I want to change,

Gavin Purcell

when

Gavin Purcell

I squeezed down to become a snake, you want the body to look

Speaker 2

snake

Gavin Purcell

and.

Kevin Pereira

You are so

Speaker 2

weird.

Gavin Purcell

Right.

Kevin Pereira

Yes. Yes. I want, when you go into armadillo mode, which Gavin does all the time, he roly polies and he will tumble after you like Sonic going for rings. You want to be able to track these things because if you're doing augmented reality on clothing or

Gavin Purcell

or, or, or driving by the way too. Right? I mean, I will say I had that crazy experience last week where I was in a Waymo for the first time. And that was crazy and it felt a little bit like, oh, I'm giving my safety up to this thing, but really safe.

Gavin Purcell

And if those get better and better, like

Gavin Purcell

maybe

Speaker 2

Elon's visions

Speaker 2

will

Speaker 2

come true.

Kevin Pereira

When it, when it pulls up, does it go a boom, boom, boom.

Kevin Pereira

Now

Kevin Pereira

everybody

Kevin Pereira

say.

Kevin Pereira

Waymo

Kevin Pereira

Waymo?

Kevin Pereira

from You

Kevin Pereira

don't

Kevin Pereira

know

Kevin Pereira

that

Kevin Pereira

song?

Kevin Pereira

that

Kevin Pereira

song. Oh, cut to clip. No, we're done with point tracking. I think it's really cool. Thank you, Meta, for doing it. There was another AI,

Kevin Pereira

see what

Gavin Purcell

The last thing I want to talk about is [00:34:00] robots wearing.

Speaker 2

is robots wearing sneakers.

Kevin Pereira

Okay, I didn't know where that

Gavin Purcell

It's going to

Gavin Purcell

land.

Gavin Purcell

ahead.

Gavin Purcell

Definitely. Safer than you would

Speaker 2

think.

Gavin Purcell

What this is, is a kind of a funky. Hmm.

Gavin Purcell

Funky video from a Chinese robotics company, which basically shows their robot running through the Gobi desert. So first of all, they're torturing the robots, making them run through the girl Gobi desert, but what was kind of cool about it is they actually ran

Gavin Purcell

faster

Gavin Purcell

wearing running shoes, running sneakers.

Gavin Purcell

And I thought was like, this is kind of a cool thing. Owned by the way, they reached a top speed of eight miles an hour running. Now watch. My

Speaker 2

My favorite

Speaker 2

thing

Speaker 2

watching

Gavin Purcell

these

Gavin Purcell

videos.

Gavin Purcell

Can hanging out in the

Speaker 2

Goby desert,

Speaker 2

you're

Speaker 2

just

Speaker 2

there. You're

Kevin Pereira

probably tripping, cresting a hill, and then you see these robots running

Gavin Purcell

along.

Kevin Pereira

I want like the robot now to be like chugging Gatorade and then starts taking performance enhancing droid

Kevin Pereira

drugs

Kevin Pereira

Oh no.

Gavin Purcell

That's AIC, what you did there, everybody. Kevin. Yeah. What did you do with AI

Kevin Pereira

week I, I'm gonna, I'm gonna redo what I did with ai. Gavin, I'm going [00:35:00] to say something to you. And I want

Gavin Purcell

Kevin Pereira

just

Kevin Pereira

tell

Kevin Pereira

me first

Kevin Pereira

thing

Kevin Pereira

that

Kevin Pereira

comes

Kevin Pereira

mind.

Kevin Pereira

Ready? E2 F5 T T S.

Gavin Purcell

It sounds like lost the numbers from

Gavin Purcell

last. How was that?

Gavin Purcell

Uh,

Gavin Purcell

is lot of lotto

Speaker 2

numbers?

Kevin Pereira

Oh, good.

Kevin Pereira

Also

Kevin Pereira

good. Yeah,

Kevin Pereira

no,

Kevin Pereira

but.

Kevin Pereira

Big, big zonks. Big nope. E2, F5, TTS. I can't get mad at it because it's open source and you can play with it, it's free. It is, as the internet said, 11 labs, which would mean best in class, quality, Voice cloning,

Kevin Pereira

and text to speech for free. Local too Local, meaning running on your corn puter. You do not have to pay to run it in the

Gavin Purcell

And do

Gavin Purcell

you have to have a very

Gavin Purcell

good corn pewter to do it? Or

Speaker 2

mean Or what will

Kevin Pereira

I, I mean, I This corn puter is pretty good, but it's a Mac. Which usually means it's not gonna

Kevin Pereira

run the latest thing. And it runs. So, do you

Gavin Purcell

want to check

Gavin Purcell

it out?

Gavin Purcell

Let's. Check it out. Let's try a little

Speaker 2

a little

Speaker 2

test

Speaker 2

Kevin Pereira

here. We're going to do it all in real time here. So I have a shout out to Pinocchio. this is E2F5, [00:36:00]

Kevin Pereira

which

Kevin Pereira

are kind of two loosely related models that do text to speech here. , and.

Kevin Pereira

I'm going to record a sample of a voice here, Gavin. , alright, so let's just do a regular example now. Yeah, here we go. Uh, this is the sound of my voice. You are not allowed to take this sample and clone it.

Kevin Pereira

I do not give you consent. I do not give you permission.

Kevin Pereira

So, uh, there's our little audio example. It's going to go back through the sample, transcribe it, then use that to create like a model

Gavin Purcell

very quickly

Gavin Purcell

and

Gavin Purcell

then

Gavin Purcell

puppet

Kevin Pereira

back,

Kevin Pereira

finished transcription, generating audio. There it is. Here we go. Dear sir or madam, I'm sorry to inform you that your car's warranty expired. You need a smog check? It's

Kevin Pereira

a me,

Kevin Pereira

Murillo.

Gavin Purcell

Well,

Gavin Purcell

what's crazy about that again. It's just how fast

Speaker 2

Gavin Purcell

works

Speaker 2

Right.

Kevin Pereira

is it as good as the best in class blah blah? No, no, it's not. Is it running free locally quick enough? Yeah Yes it is.

Kevin Pereira

Absolutely

Kevin Pereira

it is And because it's open source, it's only a matter of time before they add improvements to this and get better quality and get more [00:37:00] control over the voice And here's the question for you about this? Which I the other model too. I'll just play this real quick. I said it. Dear sir or mad, I'm sorry to inform you that your car's warranty expired. You need a smog check? It's a me. Mario?

Kevin Pereira

That's

Kevin Pereira

the one. that

Kevin Pereira

just hair better. So my question with this is obviously it's great for open source sort of applications and things like that. But. The one thing that a company like 11 labs or companies like that do have is they built in these.

Speaker 2

guide rails

Kevin Pereira

I know I

Kevin Pereira

hate it Every time I try to clone Taylor Swift or Katy Perry or some other female pop star for some reason, don't ask. There are some times you will generate voices on Eleven Labs and it says, Nope, nope, nope, we've detected this is a president.

Kevin Pereira

And you can't do it. Not a problem here, Gavin.

Kevin Pereira

Gavin Purcell

And that's a good and a thing It's a

Kevin Pereira

great thing Nuclear power. Baby

Gavin Purcell

Baby.

Kevin Pereira

baby

Gavin Purcell

Listen, these tools are crazy.

Gavin Purcell

They're powerful that what's so powerful about. That is just how fast, like, imagine. This is not to give anybody ideas, but you could easily have a [00:38:00] recording going on, have a conversation with somebody

Speaker 2

have

Gavin Purcell

pocket and then suddenly have a clone of that person's voice. So again, do not trust what people tell you.

Gavin Purcell

Yes. Now I'm going to tell you why you should ask GPT all these personal questions, because it's memorizing things about you. I kept one of the things that's come up this week, which is really interesting is. All these different prompts people have said, just like ask Chad. GPT about this thing about

Speaker 2

you

Gavin Purcell

In part, you have to have chat. D plus to do this, so. Basically a while ago, chatty PT

Speaker 2

had this thing

Speaker 2

where

Speaker 2

you

Speaker 2

would see

Gavin Purcell

signs

Gavin Purcell

that

Gavin Purcell

come

Gavin Purcell

up and say memory

Speaker 2

update Yes,

Gavin Purcell

And you don't really get like a huge awareness of that when that happens, but you see it pretty often. And it's been tracking

Gavin Purcell

you

Gavin Purcell

basically, right?

Gavin Purcell

So it's been tracking you and now you can actually ask it questions about you and sometimes pretty personal ones. And this week, all week long, people were coming up questions to ask. Of the things that came up is people are asking it, you just cut and paste these right in. And everybody's everyone's so like, based on our interactions so far, what fictional characters do I share the most traits with

Gavin Purcell

Kevin, I was Tony stark.

Gavin Purcell

It told me I was a [00:39:00] creative problem solver. I was inventive and tech savvy charismatic, but

Speaker 2

grounded.

Speaker 2

So that

Speaker 2

was nice.

Speaker 2

favorite

Speaker 2

one This is,

Kevin Pereira

this is just horoscopes for

Kevin Pereira

tech dorks. it

Gavin Purcell

is, but somebody on Reddit. It was

Speaker 2

really

Speaker 2

funny.

Speaker 2

They

Speaker 2

got

Speaker 2

Shrek.

Kevin Pereira

Okay, that's funny.

Kevin Pereira

that's funny

Gavin Purcell

But, okay, so this one's a little goofy in that way.

Gavin Purcell

And by the way, on Reddit, these are all these popped up. I mentioned, I got Tony stark. A lot of people got Tony stark. A lot of people got. Okay, but there's a female one too, that a lot of people got, but people did get a variety of different things depending on who they were. Then another one that came up, it was actually really kind of meaningful and useful was. , I asked it, uh, somebody had said, given everything we've discussed so far in everything, you know about me, how do you assess my personality and character and what are my blind spots and what am I not seeing?

Gavin Purcell

And I won't go into the details about this, but like, it does know enough because when you start to use it as a Google, or you start to use it to talk about the things you do for your work or the things you want to do, goals, you have, it starts to piece it together. And it's just another example of being able to ask information.

Gavin Purcell

That's yours. You can ask [00:40:00] it something deeper and think about information in a different way than you could. If you could just Google it. Like if I were to Google that question. Well, I would get nothing out because it doesn't know me. Google has cookies set aside, but mostly to know what mattress is I bought in like 2009.

Gavin Purcell

Like they're not going to know what I'm feeling right now. So this is the positive side of tracking. Now, granted, there's a lot of security concerns, right? Because there's a lot of me in this thing. And clearly you also have to be aware that people aren't going to put everything

Gavin Purcell

of theirs in

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there.

Gavin Purcell

You

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shouldn't

Speaker 2

put any

Speaker 2

secrets

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anything

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in here whatsoever.

Gavin Purcell

Can I

Kevin Pereira

ask

Kevin Pereira

mine

Kevin Pereira

real

Kevin Pereira

quick.

Kevin Pereira

what person do you think best exemplify

Gavin Purcell

who would

Gavin Purcell

Kevin Pereira

modern

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day

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clone

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Gavin

Kevin Pereira

Purcell?

Kevin Pereira

Epstein.

Gavin Purcell

Okay.

Gavin Purcell

Well, that's how we're going to end

Gavin Purcell

this.

Gavin Purcell

Huh?